“We need to redefine public safety by engaging with Black communities to explore alternative measures beyond traditional policing, aimed at genuinely addressing their needs and concerns.”April Frazier Camara discusses the pivotal role of public defenders in safeguarding individual rights and ensuring fairness within the justice system. She highlights the systemic inequities in law enforcement and the essential work of the Black Public Defender Association (BPDA) in redefining public safety for Black communities. In this conversation, Dr. Adriane Johnson-Williams adds insight on how media often misrepresents public defenders, emphasizing the need for changing narratives and advocating for more equitable legal representation.